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A '''noema''' (plural '''noemata''', [[wikt:Appendix:English_pronunciation|IPA]]: /noʊˈiːmə/, /noʊˈeɪmə/)<ref>Wiktionary. (n.d.) [[wikt:noema|"Noema"]]</ref> is knowledge about one's [[Otherkin|kintype]], [[Otherhearted|hearttype]], or other [[alterhuman]] identity. A noema is intrinsic knowledge and, as such, knowledge that has been learned through external sources, such as books, films, and games, are not noemata. Noemata may include memories, things one experiences as memories but which likely aren’t, |
A '''noema''' (plural '''noemata''', [[wikt:Appendix:English_pronunciation|IPA]]: /noʊˈiːmə/, /noʊˈeɪmə/)<ref>Wiktionary. (n.d.) [[wikt:noema|"Noema"]]</ref> is knowledge about one's [[Otherkin|kintype]], [[Otherhearted|hearttype]], or other [[alterhuman]] identity. A noema is intrinsic knowledge and, as such, knowledge that has been learned through external sources, such as books, films, and games, are not noemata. Noemata may include memories, things one experiences as memories but which likely aren’t, gut feelings, and general knowledge about the looks, life, or habits of one's alterhuman identity. Noemata may have a psychological or spiritual basis, may be a mix of the two, or may have unknown origins.<ref>Poppy Hapalopus (June 18th 2021) "[https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/654355599309651968/noemata-background-definition-and-use-noema Noemata: Background, definition, and use]"</ref> |
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== Etymology == |
== Etymology == |
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- husserl's philosophy |
- husserl's philosophy |
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- appropriation for alt-h use |
- appropriation for alt-h use https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/654355599309651968/noemata-background-definition-and-use-noema |
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- not just 'kin memories but psychological' https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/190929635719/i-realized-some-people-have-misunderstood-what |
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- pericall |
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== Experience == |
== Experience == |
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"If a person builds a set of beliefs or even an entire worldview based on a fabricated memory, that memory is very real in the sense that it shaped someone’s personal understanding of the world. If that person takes observable actions based on the memory and the chain of thoughts following it - for example by sharing their beliefs, learning a skill or making a career choice - the memory has a real, tangible effect on the world." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/186591323279/a-dragons-journal-zutiefst-bewegt |
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"Memories aren’t like a video recording of events. They are a cluster of sensory details, expectations, emotions, and narrative. So there isn’t that big a difference, ''psychologically and neurologically speaking'', between experienced memories and constructed ones, since real memories are constructed too. In the real world we can ‘catch’ false memories by comparing them to direct physical and recorded evidence, and the (also flawed) memories of other people. But that’s much more complicated/even impossible when it comes to past life and other-universe memories." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/186817641927/about-that-spiritual-kin-thing-what-if-someone |
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"There’s never a way to fully determine whether it’s something that has actually happened or it’s imaginary. When you’re a psychological fictionkin, it gets a little easier. You know it’s 'imaginary’. So, does this make everything that feels vaguely memory-y a noema? I don’t think that’s the case. Noemata are still supposed to surface from the subconcious. Wishful thinking doesn’t stem from the subconcious." "Noemata that are actively decided on or unfluenced by recent events, to me, hold less weight to my identity. I don’t know about other people, but I’d personally rather dismiss a potentially fake noema than accept it, or at the very least not share it with others. I see a lot of people share their memories; if not to find canonmates, then to stir up conversation. The more memories you have, the more there is to talk about, so this might make it an attractive option to accept potentially false memories. If I do this with a noema I’m not fully sure about, I feel like a liar to others and to myself." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/188073458549/noematamemories-and-wishful-thinking |
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https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/630351942456098816/im-a-little-curious-but-are-you-getting-memories |
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https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/676380927095619584/how-do-you-go-about-finding-and-processing-your |
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"The way I felt my noemata was like… a psychological/emotional game of hot and cold. I had an internal reaction to pictures and videos of canines, but this reaction varied widely in strength based on the features. Triangular ears felt more “right” than droopy ones." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/636554586070646784/30daytheri-11-noemata |
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"If it makes me feel icky or weird to consciously change it, it’s more likely to be a noema than a headcanon." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/693661419006197761/how-would-you-differentiate-memoriesnoemata-from |
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== Theories == |
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"'''Episodic memory''' is how you remember specific events, like your high school graduation or what happened when you went to go see Frozen in theaters. '''Semantic memory''' is how you remember facts/concepts/etc. about things, like a formula for math class or the name of your professor. '''Procedural memory''' is usually way less conscious than either of those, and is how you remember how to do a task, like how to get dressed or how to make a sandwich." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/635469186515206144/what-are-kin-memories-i-know-what-they-are-in |
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"But how can a Snufkin– or someone who may be of any character/species ID– tell their possible noemata apart from some other similar non-noemata thing? When I come to a “headcanon” or “interpretation” of something from fiction, it often ''feels'' like a process of going “Hey, it’d be cool or interesting if…” or “It could make sense that…” and then pondering and scanning canon material to possibly back it up so that it can sound legit enough to not ping as OOC to an onlooker (at least if I explain it, depending). Ponder any of these long enough, and they can wind up “feeling right”, in a way, even if I took an active role in figuring out how they might work and know they may not be truly canon." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/693669936444375040/if-you-may-have-a-fictotype-how-do-you-tell-your |
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== References == |
== References == |
Revision as of 22:25, 22 February 2023
A noema (plural noemata, IPA: /noʊˈiːmə/, /noʊˈeɪmə/)[1] is knowledge about one's kintype, hearttype, or other alterhuman identity. A noema is intrinsic knowledge and, as such, knowledge that has been learned through external sources, such as books, films, and games, are not noemata. Noemata may include memories, things one experiences as memories but which likely aren’t, gut feelings, and general knowledge about the looks, life, or habits of one's alterhuman identity. Noemata may have a psychological or spiritual basis, may be a mix of the two, or may have unknown origins.[2]
Etymology
- greek
- husserl's philosophy
- appropriation for alt-h use https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/654355599309651968/noemata-background-definition-and-use-noema
- not just 'kin memories but psychological' https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/190929635719/i-realized-some-people-have-misunderstood-what
- pericall
Experience
"If a person builds a set of beliefs or even an entire worldview based on a fabricated memory, that memory is very real in the sense that it shaped someone’s personal understanding of the world. If that person takes observable actions based on the memory and the chain of thoughts following it - for example by sharing their beliefs, learning a skill or making a career choice - the memory has a real, tangible effect on the world." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/186591323279/a-dragons-journal-zutiefst-bewegt
"Memories aren’t like a video recording of events. They are a cluster of sensory details, expectations, emotions, and narrative. So there isn’t that big a difference, psychologically and neurologically speaking, between experienced memories and constructed ones, since real memories are constructed too. In the real world we can ‘catch’ false memories by comparing them to direct physical and recorded evidence, and the (also flawed) memories of other people. But that’s much more complicated/even impossible when it comes to past life and other-universe memories." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/186817641927/about-that-spiritual-kin-thing-what-if-someone
"There’s never a way to fully determine whether it’s something that has actually happened or it’s imaginary. When you’re a psychological fictionkin, it gets a little easier. You know it’s 'imaginary’. So, does this make everything that feels vaguely memory-y a noema? I don’t think that’s the case. Noemata are still supposed to surface from the subconcious. Wishful thinking doesn’t stem from the subconcious." "Noemata that are actively decided on or unfluenced by recent events, to me, hold less weight to my identity. I don’t know about other people, but I’d personally rather dismiss a potentially fake noema than accept it, or at the very least not share it with others. I see a lot of people share their memories; if not to find canonmates, then to stir up conversation. The more memories you have, the more there is to talk about, so this might make it an attractive option to accept potentially false memories. If I do this with a noema I’m not fully sure about, I feel like a liar to others and to myself." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/188073458549/noematamemories-and-wishful-thinking
"The way I felt my noemata was like… a psychological/emotional game of hot and cold. I had an internal reaction to pictures and videos of canines, but this reaction varied widely in strength based on the features. Triangular ears felt more “right” than droopy ones." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/636554586070646784/30daytheri-11-noemata
"If it makes me feel icky or weird to consciously change it, it’s more likely to be a noema than a headcanon." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/693661419006197761/how-would-you-differentiate-memoriesnoemata-from
Theories
"Episodic memory is how you remember specific events, like your high school graduation or what happened when you went to go see Frozen in theaters. Semantic memory is how you remember facts/concepts/etc. about things, like a formula for math class or the name of your professor. Procedural memory is usually way less conscious than either of those, and is how you remember how to do a task, like how to get dressed or how to make a sandwich." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/635469186515206144/what-are-kin-memories-i-know-what-they-are-in
"But how can a Snufkin– or someone who may be of any character/species ID– tell their possible noemata apart from some other similar non-noemata thing? When I come to a “headcanon” or “interpretation” of something from fiction, it often feels like a process of going “Hey, it’d be cool or interesting if…” or “It could make sense that…” and then pondering and scanning canon material to possibly back it up so that it can sound legit enough to not ping as OOC to an onlooker (at least if I explain it, depending). Ponder any of these long enough, and they can wind up “feeling right”, in a way, even if I took an active role in figuring out how they might work and know they may not be truly canon." https://aestherians.tumblr.com/post/693669936444375040/if-you-may-have-a-fictotype-how-do-you-tell-your
References
- ↑ Wiktionary. (n.d.) "Noema"
- ↑ Poppy Hapalopus (June 18th 2021) "Noemata: Background, definition, and use"