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== The image policy thread ==
 
this is a continuation of a handful of conversations we've had both in the discord and on the old wiki: how do we use images on articles? in the specific, this is more like two questions:
* what kinds of images are appropriate for and relevant to articles?
* what images are legal and ethical to use?
for the first, it seems that people feel that the best images would be ones made to specifically be ''about'' alterhumanity, or at least ''by'' alterhumans. i don't personally think that, say, a photo of a cat would be out of place on the cat article, but it should probably only play a supporting role to other things. much like some editors have been encouraging people to write about their experiences, i think it would be cool to see other forms of creative expression!
 
for the latter, this one's trickier! while i get the impression that people are generally for 'fair use' for at least some kinds of non-free images, we don't fully know where we stand in terms of german copyright law (where the site is hosted). we think it upholds the EU's stance on allowing things for educational use, but we also don't know if what we're doing would count for that! if things become really hairy, we can move to a hosting company based in a country with more manageable copyright laws, but that's kind of a last resort, i'm sure you'll agree!
 
in any case, what's legal and what's right are not always the same thing. even if we were legally in the clear to use, say, this heading from this now-defunct forum whose artist hasn't been seen on the internet in years? i really don't know! we made the decision to include [[:File:Harvest howl 1995 bonfire jumping.JPG|this picture from one of the first ever howls]] on the old wiki, and so it got ported over, and i think it's really great, but it's also one that could be a bit ethically dubious.
 
we currently have a label for uploaded images that states "This file is intended to be used in a way that complies with Otherkin Wiki's fair use policy." - but we don't actually have that policy yet! clear documentation on what is and isn't acceptable to use here will be really critical, so i hope that this discussion generates some workable ideas.
 
[[User:Jazzhorse|<span style='color:#15855F;'><b>Jazzhorse 🎷🐎</b></span>]] <small>(he/him + ze/hir)</small> πŸ”Έ [[User_talk:Jazzhorse|<span style='color:#15855F;'>talk</span>]] πŸ”Έ [[Special:Contributions/Jazzhorse|<span style='color:#15855F;'>contrib</span>]] πŸ”Έ 19:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

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The image policy thread

this is a continuation of a handful of conversations we've had both in the discord and on the old wiki: how do we use images on articles? in the specific, this is more like two questions:

  • what kinds of images are appropriate for and relevant to articles?
  • what images are legal and ethical to use?

for the first, it seems that people feel that the best images would be ones made to specifically be about alterhumanity, or at least by alterhumans. i don't personally think that, say, a photo of a cat would be out of place on the cat article, but it should probably only play a supporting role to other things. much like some editors have been encouraging people to write about their experiences, i think it would be cool to see other forms of creative expression!

for the latter, this one's trickier! while i get the impression that people are generally for 'fair use' for at least some kinds of non-free images, we don't fully know where we stand in terms of german copyright law (where the site is hosted). we think it upholds the EU's stance on allowing things for educational use, but we also don't know if what we're doing would count for that! if things become really hairy, we can move to a hosting company based in a country with more manageable copyright laws, but that's kind of a last resort, i'm sure you'll agree!

in any case, what's legal and what's right are not always the same thing. even if we were legally in the clear to use, say, this heading from this now-defunct forum whose artist hasn't been seen on the internet in years? i really don't know! we made the decision to include this picture from one of the first ever howls on the old wiki, and so it got ported over, and i think it's really great, but it's also one that could be a bit ethically dubious.

we currently have a label for uploaded images that states "This file is intended to be used in a way that complies with Otherkin Wiki's fair use policy." - but we don't actually have that policy yet! clear documentation on what is and isn't acceptable to use here will be really critical, so i hope that this discussion generates some workable ideas.

Jazzhorse 🎷🐎 (he/him + ze/hir) πŸ”Έ talk πŸ”Έ contrib πŸ”Έ 19:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]